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Dan’s Dugout: Famed Pitching Coach Slams Limitations


Innings limits and pitch counts are “a load of crap,” according to celebrated pitching coach Leo Mazzone, whose Atlanta Braves won a record 14 consecutive division titles from 1991-2005.

Matt Harvey should have no restrictions, Leo Mazzone insists. Image Credit: Bill Menzel

Matt Harvey should have no restrictions, Leo Mazzone insists.
Image Credit: Bill Menzel

During an exclusive interview on the BRAVES BANTER podcast Thursday night, Mazzone pulled no punches in stating that the Washington Nationals had as much business shutting down Stephen Strasburg in 2012 as the New York Mets did in trying to limit Matt Harvey now.

“When we won in 1991, we have a young staff too,” Mazzone said, referring primarily to starters Tom Glavine, John Smoltz, and Steve Avery. “We didn’t shut them down. We wanted to win and they wanted to win.

“Innings limits are a joke. Pitchers need to practice, to pitch, and to throw more often.”

A disciple of Johnny Sain, an unorthodox pitching coach whose methods rubbed off on Mazzone, he began his second Atlanta tenure on June 22, 1990 — the day Braves GM Bobby Cox appointed himself to succeed Russ Nixon as manager.

Mazzone, Cox, and Smoltz were the only three men in uniform for the entire 14-year title run.

“Sain’s pitchers worked in a four-man rotation but I had a five-man, so I had to keep my guys sharp, said Mazzone, explaining why he became the first pitching coach to have his charges throw twice between starts. “We didn’t have any injuries. Until Smoltz had Tommy John surgery, our guys rarely missed a turn.

“Controlling the fastball is the key to good pitching but they had to throw a lot,” he said. “Nobody learns to pitch anymore — not only with the Braves but all throughout baseball.”

Mazzone noted that Maddux and Glavine became Hall of Famers without throwing hard. “No question

Tom Glavine (left) and Greg Maddux (right) made the Hall of Fame without throwing hard

Tom Glavine (left) and Greg Maddux (right) made the Hall of Fame without throwing hard

about it,” he said when asked about the long-time Atlanta control artists. “Pitchers don’t need to be concerned with velocity.”

The West Virginia native, who’s rooting for the Pittsburgh Pirates in the playoffs, said his decisions stemmed from gut reactions rather than computers. “I didn’t even know how to turn one on,” he said.

Known as Rockin’ Leo for his nervous habit of swaying on the bench during games, Mazzone said the best Braves teams of the title streak were the 1995 edition, which won the World Series, and the 1996 team, which won the first two games at Yankee Stadium before dropping four straight. A Yankees fan as a kid, Mazzone calls the 1996 World Series opener his favorite game — not only because Andruw Jones homered twice in a runaway but because it was played in the House that Ruth Built.

Affiliated with the Braves only as a pre-game radio host, Mazzone says the team needs two top starters plus a bullpen overhaul. In his eyes, Shelby Miller should be the No. 3 starter and Julio Teheran No. 4.

He also likes the future potential of hard-throwing but injury-prone Mike Foltynewicz and sinkerballer Williams Perez, both rookies this year, along with Matt Wisler, Ryan Weber, and closer Aroldys Vizcaino.

Craig Kimbrel, traded in April, could return to Atlanta

Craig Kimbrel, traded in April, could return to Atlanta

“Rebuilding the staff starts with the starting rotation,” Mazzone said. He also admitted he’d like to see the return of All-Star closer Craig Kimbrel, traded to San Diego on Opening Day but on the bloc since July.

Affable but outspoken, Mazzone could be a miracle worker for practically any major-league club. But teams have to let him handle the pitchers without interference.

That’s how he was treated by the Braves by both Hank Aaron, the former farm director, and Cox, who retired as manager in 2010. According to Mazzone, both said, “Leo, those are your pitchers. You take care of them.”

Considering the Braves led the majors in earned run average virtually every year of their 14-year division title streak, the little pitching coach was a big success.

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About Dan Schlossberg

Former AP sportswriter Dan Schlossberg of Fair Lawn, NJ has produced 35 baseball books, including autobiographies of Ron Blomberg, Al Clark, and Milo Hamilton. Also a broadcaster, he is the host and executive producer of Braves Banter and Travel Itch Radio and a contributor to Sirius XM.

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